Bandits No More

September 28, 2006

Assurance & Security

Filed under: Bible,Books,Spirituality,Theology,United Methodism — rheyduck @ 11:07 pm

In response to John L. Drury’s review of Roger Olson’s Arminian Theology: Myths and Realities I was inspired to explore the difference between Assurance and Security.

As a United Methodist pastor I pastor churches in which theology has, for generations, usually been whittled down to something like “God loves you,” “Be nice,” “Don’t judge.” With this “foundation,” my folks have no means to deal with the baptists (usually the biggest herd here in E. Texas) have to say about “once saved always saved,” and how THEY believe it and Methodists don’t.

When I teach on the subject I observe that from a phenomenalistic point of view, we all have the experience of people who at one time in their lives appear to be self-avowed, practicing Christians, clearly people of faith, who later in life would claim no such thing. Baptists (who are at least 3 point Calvinists around here) would say that person was never really saved but was just “fooling himself,” or “playing games with God.” The Methodist – if he or she said anything – would stereotypically describe the person as “falling from grace,” or “backsliding.” Same phenomenon, two explanations.

A quick glance at the bible doesn’t help much here – both sets of ideas can be found fairly easily.

In this context, however, the common baptist approach to “eternal security” seems to undermine “assurance.” Eternal security is something I can have – in theory – but I cannot have assurance that I have it, because it is always possible that I am “fooling myself” or “playing games with God.”

Wesleyan theology (moving beyond the bare folk theology of many contemporary Methodists) puts its pivit foot on assurance rather than “eternal security.” Through the work and witness of the Spirit, the believer can have assurance of salvation. Can this assuance ever be clouded? Yes, plainly. Can one lose the acceptance of God? I think the Wesleyan tradition (at its best) is fuzzy here.

How can it possibly be good to be fuzzy on such an important subject? My take is that such fuzziness is a proper stance to take in light of the biblical teaching and its contrast with the modern expectation of certainty. Descartes and his successors (he has many children in theology) tell us he need certainty – even absolute certainty. From what I see of the way this modern epistemological yearning has worked itself out, it has been reduced to absurdity. Sure you can have certainty – if you go no further than solipsism.

So – to sum up all this verbiage, I see a bi-polar doctrine of Assurance/Security, with one tradition putting its foot down on one pole, and the other tradition on the other pole.

September 21, 2006

No God Left Behind?

Filed under: Uncategorized — rheyduck @ 2:07 pm

William G. Durden, President of Dickinson College, thinks quantitative accountability to the government by the colleges – to justify their continued existence – is as silly as the government holding churches quantitatively accountable for their freedom from taxation.

September 14, 2006

Connecting Methodist Bloggers

Filed under: United Methodism — rheyduck @ 9:05 pm

John the Methodist makes a request.

Religion

Filed under: Current events,Theology — rheyduck @ 7:00 pm

Back when I was in college John Cobb came for a lecture series. One of his lectures was titled, “Can a Christian Be a Buddhist Too?” I don’t remember the content of his lecture, but my recollection was that he was quite a bit more optimistic about the possibility than I was. It boils down to what you mean by “Christian” and what you mean by “Buddhist.”

Now we hear of an Anglican priest who has converted to Hinduism. He has his little idol that he carries around with him, does his little ceremonies with the snake god… AND wants to continue to do what he did as an Anglican priest when he returns to England.

Mr Hart … is a strong advocate of pluralism. He says in his book that Hinduism accepts the divinity of Jesus and is an especially tolerant and open faith.

Hinduism IS especially tolerant and open. I’ve seen evidence to suggest it can syncretize almost anything else out there. But Christianity is not so tolerant and open – unless it has first been “hinduized.”

Mr Hart believes that his change to Hinduism would be “read in the spirit of open exploration and dialogue, which is an essential feature of our shared modern spirituality”.

Mr. Hart sounds like a priest in the Church of Shared Modern Spirituality more than of the Church of England. Christianity isn’t about openness, exploration and dialog. It’s about Jesus. Abstracted, rationalized, idealized religion – or to use the currently popular term, spirituality – is not the same thing as Christianity. Doubtless Mr. Hart and others will disagree. “We’ve been practicing a Christianity of Openness for years,” they might say.

I’m a United Methodist. For the past generation we’ve been urged to use the Outlerian (oops – that’s supposed to be Wesleyan) Quadrilateral. I’m not a big fan of it, but let’s try it. I can’t find a Hinduized version of Christianity in Scripture. Not in the Christian Tradition either. If Reason is equated with the deliverances of modern philosophy, I might have more luck there. Finally, if Experience refers to nothing more than my private feelings interpreted by myself in isolation from Scripture and the Tradition of the church, I might well find something akin to Hinduism. Or Thuggery. Or Fascism. Or Communism. Or baseball. Or gluttony. I can get just about anything out of my experience.

Can you be a Hindu and a Christian too? Apparently from the point of view of the Hindu, you can, since from that point of view there is no real difference between the Hinduism and Christianity, between Jesus and Ganesha (personally I’ve never seen a picture of Jesus with that long a nose).

From the point of view of biblical or traditional Christianity? I don’t think so.

September 11, 2006

We Forget too Quickly

Filed under: Current events,Politics — rheyduck @ 12:54 pm

We forget too quickly that the Taliban was raised up more in the madrassas of Pakistan than in Afghanistan. The “War on Terror” will never be won until those fighting it are willing to take note of the irrelevance of the national borders. Here are some observations from Ahmed Rashid, here some from the Asian Tribune.

September 9, 2006

The Books

Filed under: Books — rheyduck @ 3:26 pm

Guy Williams tagged me with this, so I’m finally going to break down and do it. Though I read piles of books, I don’t usually think in these categories, so answering these questions is tough.

1. One book that changed your life: Not so much a single book, but the reality of my parents having piles of books around when I was growing up. Seeing my dad’s math books (he’s an engineer) that I could I identify as math while not understanding a single thing stoked my curiosity. On rainy days or when I was curious about something in particular I could read our 1963 edition of the Colliers Encyclopedia.

2. One book that you have read more than once: Alasdair MacIntyre, After Virtue.

3. One book you would want on a desert island: My bible, a pad (or pads) of paper – no distractions.
4. One book that made you laugh: Anything by Terry Pratchett. The Discworld books featuring the Watch (police stories) are favorites. Maybe The Truth was the funniest.
5. One book that made you cry: Hmm. I don’t associate crying with any particular book. Maybe the bible.
6. One book you wish had been written: Alternatives to Constantinianism. What options were available to the church – and to Constantine – in the early 4th century? What better option could they have pursued? Surely there are better options than (1) “We’re in charge now. Believe what we tell you to believe and do what we tell you to do.”; and (2) The Ignatius of Antioch point of view, “Let’s make sure we make it possible for the powers of the world to kill us.”
7. One book you wish had never been written: I can’t think of one right now whose ideas I can’t imagine having come to pass in some other form if not written in the form it was.
8. One book you’re currently reading: Os Guiness, The Call. A great book.
9. One book you’ve been meaning to read: Alvin Plantinga, Warrented Christian Belief.

September 8, 2006

Diversity = God?

Filed under: Theology,United Methodism,church growth — rheyduck @ 11:51 pm

I’ve long been pained that our United Methodist marketing campaign, “Open Hearts, Open Minds, Open Doors,” has replaced our official doctrine (which, according to the Book of Discipline, is of determinate Christian substance). The apparent relativism of our marketing slogan makes a poor substitute for the historic faith of the church.

Especially painful is one of the statements uses in the campaign, “I believe that when you truly embrace diversity you embrace god.” My take on this has been that we’ve taken a trendy abstraction – “diversity” – and raised it to equality with deity. (“Embrace” is just as trendy, but at least it’s a verb.) I don’t watch much tv, so I’ve never seen the ad in which this statement occurs – I’ve only seen it on t-shirts – so I’ve never had the proper context to evaluate it.

Now I’ve found a deeper explanation of the theological thinking behind the campaign. Though I’m not convinced by the arguments in the paper, I was surprised to find one of the scriptural supports offered for “embracing diversity.” On p. 6 is says:

The word of the LORD came to Jonah a second time, saying, “Get up, go to Nineveh, that great city, and proclaim to it the message that I tell you.” So Jonah set out and went to Nineveh, according to the word of the LORD. (see Jonah 3-4, NRSV)

Jonah didn’t want to go to Nineveh. He didn’t want to preach to the evil Ninevites. He didn’t want God to have mercy on them. But he “embraced diversity” and went. (Can we say that he went only after a Big Fish “embraced diversity?”) Jonah overcame his prejudices and stereotypes to go preach God’s word to the people of Nineveh.

What was that word? The NRSV puts is this way: “Forty days more, and Nineveh shall be overthrown!” As far as we can tell, there was no command of repentance, no offer of forgiveness. It was simply, “You’re going to suffer God’s judgment.”

Before I read this piece at the Igniting Ministry website I never imagined that UMCOM meant that “embracing diversity” included preaching the judgment of God on sin. I’d been afraid they’d tossed out everything about sin and judgment and were simply into affirming everything – even the popular sins of the day.

Now I know better. I stand corrected.

September 5, 2006

Evaluating Youth Ministry

Filed under: Leadership,Youth Ministry,church growth — rheyduck @ 1:20 pm

Back in the days that “Youth Ministry” was a central part of my job description, I used to feel bad that I didn’t fit the mold of “youth ministry guy.” You know – the overgrown, hyper-energetic, guitar playing, extraverted, always fun person – who stereotypically fills the role? I was a fairly quiet, introverted, academic type. My youth groups never had the huge blow out events. We never numbered in the hundreds – or anywhere close.

A couple of times I actually prayed something like, “God, make me more exciting so I can draw in more youth!” But my prayer was only half-hearted. I was – and remain – fairly content with my personality type. What I’ve done instead is shift the way I evaluate a youth ministry.

There are lots of ways to evaluate the quality of the youth ministry. Quite a few judge quality on the basis of quantity:

  • How many members?
  • How many regulars?
  • How many conversions?
  • How many programs/activities?

All of these can be good things. Unfortunately, each (as we judge them) can be completely irrelevant.

Instead of basing my evaluation on numbers, I ask the question, “Where will these kids be in ten years? Will what our ministry does with them now have any lasting influence? Will it stick with them – even a little – through the college years? Will it shape their families and career path?” I’m happy to say that ten years out of my last youth ministry job there is some lasting fruit. It still breaks me heart that there’s not more (also when I read stories like this).

“Fruit that lasts” sounds pretty biblical, doesn’t it? So why do we stick with the numbers game? I can think of a few reasons:

  1. Numbers are biblical also. In the Book of Acts we’re repeatedly told of thousands coming to faith.
  2. Numbers appeal to our egos. We can easily visualize them and compare them with others.
  3. The vast numbers of people in youth ministry who are insecure and think (too often rightly) that the church they work for doesn’t consider their work to be real work, feel the need to justify their measly little salary. “Why are we paying you the big bucks [20 - 30 k with no benefits] to have fun with just a handful of kids?”
  4. Numbers are something we can measure NOW. Who knows where we’ll be in ten years? We probably won’t even remember these kids.

So how do you do youth ministry if you’re looking for fruit ten years out? I’m far from an expert, but here are some ideas:

  1. Give the kids what they need, not just what they want. Matt Friedeman says the same thing. The problem is, kids know what they want right now – but they rarely know what they want for their lives as a whole. As people who are – or ought to be – at least a few steps ahead of them in terms of spiritual maturity, we can have a better understanding of what they’ll want from a whole life point of view.
  2. How do you know what they need? First, pray your socks off. Second, converse with them. Rely on your maturity to know what to do with what they tell you.
  3. At the same time, make the kids partners in their own spiritual development. Let them know what you’re doing. Help them to grasp the big picture. A key way to do this is to involve them in the ministry so they can be part of the same process in the lives of others.
  4. Continually challenge them. Sure, they’re only youth. So what? Get them into the bible. Get the bible into them. Teach them that God calls his people to be his Kingdom agents.
  5. Relate to them not merely in formal settings (i.e., group meetings and scheduled events), but also in normal life. Help them to see and understand “ordinary” life from a Christian point of view.
  6. Let them see your heart. They generally will anyway – you can’t hide it from them. If you’re in it for the money, they’ll know. (While youth ministry rarely pays a living wage, there are enough insecure people filling the ranks who think they’ve invested too much in it and couldn’t possibly do anything else.) Show them how much you love them. Show them how much your heart is broken for them and their peers.
  7. Reinforce your own ignorance. Ignorance is normal. Advanced degrees only expand ignorance – they don’t eradicate it. When your kids hear your own admission of ignorance, and see that you (at your exalted stage of spirituality) still have significant distance to cover, they’ll be more likely to have realistic expectations for themselves, and won’t give up at the first sign of failure.
  8. Following closely on the last point, fail frequently. I don’t mean that you should SIN frequently (I’m not making the same point Staupitz did to young man Luther). Failure is a normal part of life. They need to see us obeying God whether it “works” or not.
  9. Still following closely – we need to demonstrate – not just say – what it means to takeup our crosses daily. Even though Jesus has defeated the powers of sin, death and hell in his death and resurrection, the Christian life is no mere walk in the park. The world is still a dangerous place. If we can hold together a healthy sense of our own fragility, a sense of the danger of the world, AND a sense of the awesome role God calls us to in life, we will be able to stay weak, humble and usable.
  10. Finally, (and I recognize many more things are needed) don’t do it alone. This has always been my greatest error. I know by observation that I’m not alone in making this error. In the short term its almost always easier to do it all myself. In the long term I cheat the kids, cheat the church, cheat the ministry as a whole, and wear myself out. The kids need multiple role models. They need to see multiple ways of following Jesus. The ministry needs the wisdom of several people of diverse experience with God.

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